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| Aleksandra Kutina (Samara, Russia)Hi - I am describing an "almost scammed" story that happened to me, and that contains similar texts to
http://www.womenrussia.com/blackpage284.htm. This entity goes by the handle of Devushka (russian: girl) and uses the e-mail address: Hi, XXX. Thank you for your message. I was surprised to find your email. Good surprise. First of all I am sorry that I couldnt reply to you earlier. I am a little skeptical about these dating service in Internet, so I dont check my email box often. But now if we will continue talking I will check it every day. Well, now I tell a little about myself. I am 29 years old. My birthday is on the September 3. And I will be 30. My phisical details: height - 5 ft 5 in (172 cm), weight - 119 lbs (54 kg). I have grey-blue eyes and dark brown hair. I dont smoke. I drink occasionally, red wine or champagne. I have good education. Work as an accountant at small company. I have never been married and I have no children. I keep active life, like sport and outdoors. I have some hobbies, such as reading and listening to music. Also I like cookery and knitting. I like animals and children. As for my personality, I am calm and loyal. Enough emotional and sensible. Religion: I am a Christian but not strong believer. I go to church seldom. My intentions: Id like to meet good man with kind soul and great sense of humor. I am family oriented person and my goal is to make happy family. I need support and understanding in my life. I want, that it was the kind, sympathetic, decent and honest man. As for me I am ready to become the fond and tender wife, good friend and partner for this man. I attached my photo, the most recent. It was taken this summer. I am at work on it and a little tired but I like it enough. I also want to say that I am serious about my intentions and I am not going to play heart games. I understand that distance may become the obstacle. So we should start from friendship. I like to make friends and if things will not work between us we would stay in touch as good friends. Tell me about yourself and what you think. Waiting for your reply. Devushka P.S. Some photos for you.Message #2 (in third week of August, 2004):Hello, XXX. I am very pleased to get your reply. Thank you for your letter. Id like to know more about you and your life. I am sorry for such long delay in my responding. I use Internet at my work and we had some troubles with local network and there was no Internet connection. Now it works and I hope well continue our talking. Well, I will tell a little about myself. I live in Samara. It is old city. The population of our place is about 1,2 million people. The life here is as usual as in the another russian cities. Of course, I must say that it is nice. I also would like to know about your place. As for my work. I work as an accountant in the small company. We sell foodstuff for small shops. I cant say that I like my work, but it is good job which I can get there. I have good education. I am graduate of Social university and I have a deegree in Finance and Business Accounting. I can read and write English, and slightly speak. I dont have enough practice in spoken English but Id like to have. I want to improve my skills. Recently I got some courses of spoken English and now I attend lectures. About two weeks ago our company was connect to Internet. I like to surf Internet, it is very interesting. And the most striking thing is that I can see all over the world through the computer. I know that Imay look silly but I really enjoy this possibility. Yes, I must say that I am begginer with Internet. I use computer at my work and I havenot much time in Internet. I dont have computer at home so I can send you a message only when I work. I work 5 days a week so I will be unable to write you on weekends. I have already been surfing for two weeks in Internet. So dont be strict if I dont understand anything. I will learn it. Smile. Well, let me continue. I wanted to tell how I came to conclusion to find someone through Internet. I saw some dating services, I watched ads, but I didntthink that it works. I dont know why I decided to reply to your ad.To be honest I didnt think you would ever write me. I didnt thinkthat it works. But you did. It was so surprised. I am realy glad to talk with you. Well, I am a little confused and I dont know what to say. I hope all this stuff is not too boring to read. Smile. XXX, I have already told you that I want to find someone through Internet. I just wanted to say that it is my serious intention. I am interested in you and I want us to be good friends. Six months ago I lost my boyfriend. It was sad time. But now I want start new life with new person. It seems to me, that you are respectable and honest man. I think we can understand each other. Well, I must close my message now. Waiting for your letter. Yours faithfully
Devushka.Message #3 (AUgust 29, 2004):Hello, my friend. I thank you for your letter and your interest in me. XXX, it is interesting to read about you and your life. I want to know more about you. Please, tell me about your family, friends and people that you know. What is your usual day? I will also tell you what you want to know about me. I have good time to correspond with you. I enjoy it. I can say it is becoming one of my favourite things. I dont remember if I told you about my hobbies or things I like to do for fun. It seems to me that people who wants to have some relationship must have the same ideas and goals in life and also the same ways for rest and fun. I like different activities like sport, walking, going-out and outdoors. I cant say that I am engaged in sport. I just like it. I like bicycle-riding, swiming and beach especially. Also I like to dance. I dance classic and modern dances. I am an amateur not a professional. I think the real woman should be beautiful both soul and body. My mother teached me to play piano. I also can sing. I will try to learn some english songs. Hope you can hear them someday. Smile. I enjoy cooking. I prefer italian and russian food. My favourite dishes are different soups and salads. I cook great Ukrainian borsch. It is a soup made of beet, meat, cabbage and carrot. Very tasty. Smile. As I said I like reading. I read different books, but prefer books about history and countries. I read a lot of Russia and America. These countries are great. As for fun, I like the same thing like all people. Movie, walking, theatre. I like to drink tea with friends in cafe. We talked about everything and nothing. Smile. I dont have a lot of friends, but all they are good people. To be honest I dont like empty people. My friends are almost my old friends from childhood and youth. They are already almost married. Dont think that I am close person. I like to meet new people and make friends. I am easy-going and I easily strike up new acquaintance. From another side I am not easy approachable woman. I am serious. I think it is from my upbringing. XXX, I dont remember if I told you about my family. I live alone. My mom died about two years ago. And I have never seen my father. The most close person now is my uncle, my mothers brother. He lives with his family, but I am not close to them. His wife thinks my uncle is my lover. Actually we just friends. I think he is like father for me. Silly woman, she cant the friendship between man and woman. I am not angry at her. I am just sorry she is so narrow-minded. My mother was a scientist. She was full professor at college. She was on the historical faculty. >From my birth my mother wanted me to become a scientist too. But I didnt. I had enough strict upbringing. I had been not allowed to date with boys until I got 20 years old. My mother was old-fashion person. Probably it is not bad. I loved my mother and respect her. She could give me good upbringing. We didnt have any conflicts. I always try to understand her. She loved me too and just wanted me to be happy. It was the most hard time in my life whe he died. I thank my uncle, he was with me and supported me. I talked with my uncle about you. Are you surprised? We often had confiding talking. He understands me in full. I said him that I meet a man on dating service in Internet. And that this man is from another country. Uncle said that it is great. I asked him what he thinks if I would like to visit this country and maybe to move there. He said that it is OK, if I feel I want it. I am glad with this. Well, hope it is not boring to read. Smile. You see sometimes man must sit and think about his life and about what he is and what he wants. It seems to me that I have this time now. What I want? Simple things. Happiness, family, careful husband. I put spiritual life to the first, not material things. I am not looking for better life or getting rich. I am looking for full life. Why I cant find husband here in Russia? I can, but I dont want. I see how my mother lived, I see how other people live in Russia. Yes, here is bad economics and I dont want to live here. I love my Motherland but I dont like the State. I want to have comfortable life and dont always be in searching good job and better salary. I want to dedicate my life to my husband and my family. I dont want to say that I am lazy. I like to work, but I dont want to dedicate my life to my work. I hope you understand what I am talking about. I see that many russian women try to go out from Russia looking for better life. They mary to foreigners to get citizenship of another state. Then they divorce. I dont like them. I believe in marriage for life. I want to marry for love. XXX, I want you to understand me in full, until we will make some any steps. Tell me what you think about this all and what else you would like to know. Well, this letter seems to be long, so I will close. Until next time. Yours Devushka. P.S. It is my last photo with mother.Message # 4 (August 31,2004):Hello XXX. Thank you for your writing. It really brights my days. Dont think that is just words. I always mean what I say... Or at least I try to. Smile. XXX I cant still believe you are so far from me. Yes, I understand it but cant imagine it. It seems to me we are old friends and you just live next city. Yes, computer and Internet are like a window to the world. It is fantastic. You know our acquaintance made me to think a little differently about people living in the world. Good change. Of course I knew about other countries and people but before it was like an idea, that I saw on TV, read in books and newspapers. But now I can feel it. Understand me please, I have just touched to different culture, life and people through you. And I saw it is real. XXX I am a person that doesnt believe until he touchs. Smile. I realize you are the same person as I am. We speak different languages, live in the different countries but we want the same things in our lifes. I feel that I am a part of something very huge and important. Thank you for giving me this feeling. Now I want to travel all over the world, to meet new people and to get new experience. I really think it is great fun and useful. What do you think? I actually may look naive but this is what I think. Smile. Yesterday I met my friends. We usually meet at someones home or go to our favourite cafe. This is pretty nice place. It is small and very cosy. They dont sell alcohol there so it is not very popular. It seems stange? I am not sure you know but usually russians drink a lot. So it is always loudly where alcohol is on sale. My friends dont like to drink too as I do. They are almost my old friends from university or childhood, and a girl from my work. We talk, drink tea, joke, have fun. Very nice people. I live them all. Its a pitty we cant meet often but time or too in month. They almost are married and have family and children so they are constantly busy. Well the matter is that I told them about you. They were really happy for me. They already asked when I come to you. Smile. I explained we are just friends but they still bantered me all evening. They say hello to you. XXX Ive just realized you dont know my full name. I want you know. My full name is Aleksandra Kutina. I know I would must said it before. I am sorry for I used my nick name. You may call me any way you like. Also I want to give you my postal address. It is 65 Dmitrova street. Samara Russia 443000. I want you know it just in case I cant write you an email. Please, dont send any presents to me. I would feel very uncomfortable to accept it if I would get them. Our postal system is very unreliable and I dont want you waste your money. XXX also give me your postal address, in case if I dont email you, I may send you some card to let you know I am ok. Thank you for picture. I enjoy it. You look nice. Well I must already go home. I will continue next time. Aleksandra (or Sasha for short) p.s. XXX I really glad you wrote to me. Smile. Keep writing.Message #5 (Sept. 5, 2004)Hi XXX. I cant write you from my work any more. I have new chief. He just interdict use the internet at personal needs. I couldnt wait when I can come here to computer club to read your letter. It really brights my day. Smile. I am really happy to get your reply. And I like we both enjoy our correspondence. Your letters mean a lot for me. XXX, yesterday evening I told with my uncle about you. He is exciting about our friendly relationship. I read him some parts from your letters. Not all, just some sentenses. Hope you dont mind I share that with my uncle. He is the only close person to me and I trust him. He thinks you are worthy man. But he said I must be cautious. I can understand his feelings. But for me you are honest man and I dont think you can ever deceive me. I know I may be mistaken with my thoughts about you. Only time will say the truth. Smile. To be honest we discussed about my possibility to move to you. Smile. Dont worry, it is just an idea. I understand that it is too early to think about it. But who knows. Maybe at first we would meet in person. Anyway my uncle said that he will support me in my choice and dont mind if I move. XXX, I dont know what is going on with me. I found myself thinking of you often. It seems to me that you are more than just a friend to me. I hope I didnt scare you off with my thoughts. Smile. I wonder what you think about me as your possible life partner? Do you think that we could have common future? I understand if it is too straight question. But I would like to know your opinion. I am honest with you and I want you to be honest with me too. We must trust each other. Its very important in relationship. As for me I see you as my possible partner for life. I know we have great distance between us. But with our letters I feel you close. I believe you are the man with nice soul. I think personal contact is more better than letters via e-mail. But now it is enough to know each other better and see if we realy can have something common in future. Who knows probably we will meet one day and get married. Smile. Well, I continue to tell about me and my life here. My usual day is not too interesting. I get up at 6 oclock and at 8 I must be at my work. It takes me about 20 minutes to get there by bus or about 40 minutes on foot. I like to go to work on foot because it is very invigorative. Morning, fresh air. Especially now, when spring is coming. Then I am at work until 5. About 6 oclock I return home. Make some domestic things like cleaning and washing. Three times a week I go to gym, make some aerobics and dances. Sometimes I go to library, theatre, to my friends. When I dont want to go anywhere I stay at home to read a book or play piano, I like to learn a new music composition. In the evenings I watch some film or show on TV and go to bed. Today I got my salary at work. That small pleasant event always makes people to love their work if only for a day. Smile. I dont earn large sum of money. It is 3500 rubles (about $120 USD) for a month. But I am enough satisfied with it. I wish I got more money, but I dont want to become crazy about it. I saw many people who wanted to get much money. Some of them gained it. But they almost changed their personality. They cant talk about anything, only money. Yes, it is difficult to make good money in Russia. But money is not my life goal. For my salary I can buy something of clothes and it is enough to buy food. For russian standard I have less average earnings. I have a TV set and tape-recorder at home. I dont have a car, but I can drive it. I have my bicycle and I enjoy to ride it. Smile. Not sure how interesting it is to read about these things but I want you know. XXX, how much do you earn? I am just interesting. You dont need to answer if you dont want. I know that we have different life levels. But it is interesting what are expenses for living at you. I pay about $50 USD for my flat and electricity. In winter I pay additional 10 for central heating. I am lucky I live in my mothers flat. This flat was given to my mother by the Univercity where she worked. Actually it is not my accomodation. I can just live here. I have only one room and a kitchen. I dont want to complain of something. It is usual things here. I want to show you life here. By the way how much is Internet access where you live? I am paying about 48 roubles for an hour in this computer club (about $1.6 USD for a hour). XXX, tell me about your the same things. I am interesting what is your life there. I thought about my life and recent events. You know from my last relationship with man I understood that the connection between man and woman is very delicate. It needs efforts from both sides to be supported and developed. You cant just date, make love and say words. It is more deeper. My last boyfriend was a photographer. Some my pictures were made by him. He was more than just a photographer, he was an artist, a creator. Our parting was not a tragedy. In the certain time we both understand we are not together and decided to break it. I dont miss him. It was the best we could do. XXX I dont know why I tell it to you. Now I want to create full relationship and I know how to do it. I will try to give all my soul to my man and I need his one for me. Well dont get it too close. It is just my thoughts and I dont claim anything. Smile. My birthday was OK. Some friends came to me and we have close evening. I dont like to make magnificent parties. I better like friendly atmosphere. We had a lot of fun and nice dinner. I made a roast, some salads and baked a pie. Well, I must cut my letter here. Write me more. All what you think and dream. I need it. Looking forward to getting your letter. Take care of you. Goodbye XXX. AleksandraMessage #6 (Sept. 8)Hello XXX. How are you? I am fine. I am sorry for my silence. We had some troubles at my work and I had to do some extra work. Now all things are done and I can visit Internet club. By the way I knew that internet club works on Saturday also from 10 am to 2 pm. I think I will write you on Saturdays too. Dont think I forgot about you. Smile. No, I think of you often. I am very intersting to know you more and I like that we can talk via email. Is it OK for you that I cant write you everyday or regularly? I will try to write as often as I can. To be honest I am a little nervous. XXX, you may ask why I feel a little nervous. I am a little scared about having new serious relationship, particularly, a relationship with you, because I want a relationship with you to work out. I want it to happen, to mature, and excel. Another reason I am nervous is because a serious relationship is a big step. A big step for both of us. And, lastly, I am nervous of the possibility that you will say something like "Sasha, you are a great friend, and I think we should keep things that way". I think I want more. It is based on what you have written me, what you have told me of you, and what you have told me of your thoughts, life and so on. I think that I really want to develop our relationship. I know it may be premature for me to think this way. But I do because I feel this way. Last days I thought about you a lot and I thought about us. I thought may it be possible for us to meet each other one day. I thought how real is Internet. How we can learn each other throught it. Really it seems to me that there is no difference what way we communicate. The important thing is that we can learn each other and to have image of our character in our minds. And it is great. Well, I must go now. I will write again soon. Yours
Sasha.Message #7 (Sept. 14, 2004)Hi my dear XXX. At first I am sorry I couldnt write you earlier. Lately I couldnt access Internet. They had some problems with computers at the computer club and Internet didnt work. I am always happy to receive your letters. Thank you. Today we have great weather. Sunny and enough warm. Fall is coming. I like this thime very much. It is very good time for walking in the parks here. I would like you were here and we could go for walk and talk with each other. You know XXX I miss you. Smile... Yes, I have never seen you but I miss you. With our correspondence I feel you close to me. Dont know how it may happen but I have a feeling we know each other for a long time. XXX I am sorry I cant write you long letter today. I have some things to do today and I must go. I just wanted to let you know that I received your message and I think about you. Bye. Yours
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